Slavery: THE Cause Of The War?

Slavery

From: dware4dixie@gmail.com
To: sbramson@bellsouth.net

Sir,

I have been following the dialogue in SHNV. I disagree that "all scholarly research" states that slavery was the main issue. I do believe that there is other "scholarly" research that indicates otherwise. The inference from your statement is that if the research indicates otherwise it is not "scholarly.

I also would assume that cultural differences (most of don't care for Yankees and certainly not being ruled by them), The fact that Lincoln got not one electoral vote from the South, and that fact that the South was paying over 80% of the Federal till were not good enough causes for secession. Would you then have an opinion on what would be a good enough cause for secession?
I would also point out the the "all about slavery"TM implies that there is a definite ability somehow to answer the question of what this war was fought. Could also that ability be used to answer why we are in Iraq, Afghanistan and hundreds of other countries in the world?

I believe it is as important to look at the effects of wars as the causes. I would argue that the North's onslaught of the South was the first in many rounds of imperialistic warmongering. That by devastating the South, forcing her into a "union" with blood, this country was made large enough to wage war on the world. I would think that most "scholarly research" would indicate that America today is ruled by the heirs of Lincoln, not Thomas Jefferson or Jefferson Davis. If you like the passing of unread bills, federal bailouts, bribes, and corruption, then you have to love the way the War of 1861-65 turned out.

So, if slavery is the major cause of the war, was it worth it?

Happy New Year,

David Ware

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Slavery: THE Cause Of The War?

Fort Pulaski Commemorates The Tyrant Lincoln's War

“The contest is really for empire on the side of the North, and for independence on that of the South, and in this respect we recognize an exact analogy between the North and the Government of George III, and the South and the Thirteen Revolted Provinces. These opinions . . . are the general opinions of the English nation.”
— London Times, Nov. 7, 1861
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".........WSAV mentions that the fort was only occupied for a few months — it was actually held by Confederate forces from January 3, 1861, to April 11, 1862."

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“North Carolina’s

Self-Determination Oval”

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NC LS Winter Conference and Nathaniel Macon Institute (NMI)

“Cracking North Carolina’s Closed Political System”

Saturday, 12 February 2011

11AM-3PM

Mayflower Seafood Restaurant, 1160 Huffman Mill Road

Burlington, North Carolina

L-R: Dr. Michael Beitler, Michael C. Tuggle, Dr. Tom Minsel

Join us for a day of provocative analysis of North Carolina’s political system, an important part of our daily lives no matter what happens in Washington City. Our keynote speaker will be free market proponent and former US Congressional candidate Dr. Mike Beitler of Greensboro. He is the author of “Rational Individualism” and “Strategic Organizational Change,” and will be presenting his views on North Carolina’s political system and limited ballot access for non-mainstream candidates.

League of the South Board member, author and LS REBELLION! blogger Michael C. Tuggle will speak on “Short Circuiting the System,” a unique do-it-yourself political guide for Tarheel voters seeking better results at the polls. Mr. Tuggle is past State Chair of the NC LS and author of “Confederates in the Boardroom” and he will have copies of his books to personally sign.

Dr. Tom Minsel, Director of the NMI, will present “November 2010: Catch 22” an analysis of poll data results and the systemic problem built into our State political "system.” He will ably demonstrate how the State needs to take the lead in national politics and why the League of the South offers the only solution to our national plight. We expect a third speaker on the same topic and are in negotiations with a well-known political analyst from Charlotte.

Mark your calendars for February 12^th. Members are expected, guests are always welcome.

Order Your Free Magnolia’s To Distribute!

This power-packed tabloid is one of the best tools the League provides for us to spread the good word in local restaurants, shops and information racks. They are available from the LS national office for only $20 for a bundle of 100.

Directions to the Mayflower Restaurant:

Take Exit 141 off I-40/85 and turn West away from town (left if you are coming from Raleigh, right if you are coming from Greensboro). The Mayflower is located on the left just beyond the interstate overpass and beside the Kangaroo gas station.

See www.northcarolina.chapterlos.net for current agenda information.

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What The Traditional South Wants And Doesn't Want:
A Statement To The Rest Of The World

As the only extant Southern Nationalist organization, The League of the South has taken upon itself the responsibility of speaking for the Traditional South. Someone else will have to speak for the New South; we want no part of it.

What we want:

To live in peace with the rest of the world, if possible;

To engage in fair trade with Europe, Asia, Latin America, and other emerging world markets;

To avoid entangling political and military alliances with all other nations;

To return to a sound currency and to re-establish a solid manufacturing base in the Southern States;

To help Southerners become freeholders by the ownership of family farms and small businesses;

To halt illegal immigration completely;

To protect our natural environment from the effects of over-population and irresponsible business practices;

To eschew aggressive war as a means of foreign policy, especially in the volatile Middle East;

To preserve the South for Southerners by establishing a Southern constitutional republic based on historic Christian principles and mores;

To withdraw from all international bodies which threaten national sovereignty;

To oppose globalization and the elite class that profits from it;

To destroy the Establishment’s political stranglehold by the Republican and Democrat parties.

What we don’t want:

To engage in “perpetual war for perpetual peace” nor witness the shedding of any more Southern blood for the advancement of the Empire;

To rule the world by spreading global capitalism and global democracy;

To engage in unfair trade practices with other nations, either through so-called “free trade” agreements or the establishment of protective tariffs;

To extend “most favored nation” status to any country;

To force the “Southern way” on any other people anywhere in the world;

To continue the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq or to go to war with Iran;

To go to war against any nation except in self defense;

To continue the outsourcing of Southern jobs to other countries with lower wages;

To continue to live in the godless, multicultural American Empire.

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Northern Newspapers, Censorship and Mercenaries

Inaccurate and outright fabricated newspaper stories did not begin with the War Between the States, but it was perhaps elevated to an art form by Northern journalists eager for a scoop. The descendants of these untrustworthy wordsmiths helped initiate the Spanish-American and later wars, and earning them their modern title of “hack-typists.”

Bernhard Thuersam, Director
Cape Fear Historical Institute
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“The North…was witnessing the first attempt at saturation coverage. As a mass of correspondents jostled for positions, the very strength of their numbers began to militate against good reporting. Comradeship and compassion vanished in the race for exclusive news. One correspondent begged a wounded officer not to die before he had finished interviewing him and, as an inducement, promised him that his last words would appear in “the widely-circulated and highly influential journal I represent.”

Accuracy became a minor consideration. Casualties were grossly underestimated; generals listed as killed lived on to die of old age; battles were reported on days when there was no action at all; at times the whole Southern army was reported to be marching on Washington; Atlanta was reported captured a week before the battle for the town took place. It was a small step from ignoring accuracy to faking whole reports. Junius Browne of the New York Tribune collected from officers details of the Battle of Pea Ridge (March 1862) and wrote a brilliant, but entirely imaginary, “eye-witness” report.

(After Manassas], the first clash of the war…indications of Northern superiority had sent the Northern war correspondents hurrying to Washington to write accounts of a great victory. Although the Associated Press managed to get news of this momentous defeat to the telegraph office, to be sent to New York, it went no farther. The general-in-chief of the Northern forces, Winfield Scott, had stopped its transmission, and so the results of the first major act of censorship in the war was chaos, with all the New York newspapers carrying stories of a glorious victory that was, in fact, a scandalous defeat.

The Secretary of War, Edwin M. Stanton, began to dicker with casualty figures. He altered an account of Grant’s failure at Petersburg, reducing the losses to about a third of their actual number. His department withheld the news of the surrender of Harper’s Ferry for twenty-four hours and changed “10,000 Union troops surrendered” first to “6,000” and in later dispatches to “4,000.” The actual figure was 11,200.

Stanton took to censoring newspapers that had broken censorship rules, arresting editors, threatening proprietors with court-martial, and banning correspondents from the front, and he actually issued orders for Henry Wing of the New York Tribune to be shot for refusing to hand over a dispatch he had written for his newspaper.

What other stories did correspondents miss…or refrain from writing? One of the cruel facts of the war was that the North, although it considered itself to be fighting for the survival of democracy, could not raise enough volunteers willing to risk their lives for this cause. The South claimed that Northern men of military age were so unwilling to join the army that the majority of the Union troops were foreigners….taking the official figures, one soldier in three was foreign, most of them being German or Irish. Some eastern States had to introduce a bounty system to fill their regiments, a practice that led to men being shanghaied into service, when conscription was introduced in 1863. Many posed the question the North was reluctant to ask: if the cause of the Union was such a noble one, why was there such violent opposition to the idea of fighting for it?”

(The First Casualty, The War Correspondent as Hero, Propagandist, and Myth Maker. Phillip Knightly, Harcourt, Brace, Jovanovich, 1975, pp. 26-29)
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Northern Newspapers, Censorship and Mercenaries

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