Ya the end result of a nullification attempt is known. The states try and nullify, the Fedgov withholds federal matching funds for X,Y and Z program while the various liberal groups in each state begin the law suit process costing even more money. The State governments cave and we are saddled with whatever law the Fedgov wants.
We need the convention to do away with Federal income tax and deficit spending before Nullification can even hope to work.
As I have said elsewhere, what would make anyone believe that amending a document that they are ignoring altogether anyway is going to change anything? Constitutional content is not the problem, Constitutional enforcement is. Enforcement is the responsibility of the states. They created this beast and it is their job to tame it. The 10th amendment is there for a reason, it's time they got around to using it.
It is Secession or Slavery. Choose one. There is no third choice.
A convention is exactly how we ended up with the constitution when delegates were gathered to only consider amendments to the Articles of Confederation. The founders called that convention knowing full well they intended to do away with that form of governance. We honor them today for what they did? Patrick Henry saw full well where the new consolidated federal government would lead us.
"And here I would make this inquiry of those worthy characters who composed a part of the late federal Convention. I am sure they were fully impressed with the necessity of forming a great consolidated government, instead of a confederation. That this is a consolidated government is demonstrably clear; and the danger of such a government is, to my mind, very striking. I have the highest veneration for those gentlemen; but, sir, give me leave to demand, What right had they to say, We, the people? My political curiosity, exclusive of my anxious solicitude for the public welfare, leads me to ask, Who authorized them to speak the language of, We, the people, instead of, We, the states? States are the characteristics and the soul of a confederation. If the states be not the agents of this compact, it must be one great, consolidated, national government, of the people of all the states."
The republic is long dead as is the constitution. Those who feel we can restore the constitution and the republic are as deluded as those who feel with just the right Republican candidate we can vote our way out of this. We as a nation are just too large, too out of scale for a proper form of republican governance to work and we are too far divided to ever be able to come together and even try to make it work. Our "representative" government only represents the special interests and the political elites don't give a damn about "we the people" except in how they can manipulate us to serve their needs and the wishes of their masters.
It is time again to say " all we ask is to be let alone". It is time to truly Free North Carolina.
In a few short years interest will consume ALL federal tax income. Then the feds will not be able to extort or bribe states to follow its mandates as there is nothing in it for the states at that point. Nullify, nullify, nullify.
Ya the end result of a nullification attempt is known. The states try and nullify, the Fedgov withholds federal matching funds for X,Y and Z program while the various liberal groups in each state begin the law suit process costing even more money. The State governments cave and we are saddled with whatever law the Fedgov wants.
ReplyDeleteWe need the convention to do away with Federal income tax and deficit spending before Nullification can even hope to work.
I've seen proposed changes to the Constitution which would scare you to death. I'll go for nullification.
DeleteAs I have said elsewhere, what would make anyone believe that amending a document that they are ignoring altogether anyway is going to change anything? Constitutional content is not the problem, Constitutional enforcement is. Enforcement is the responsibility of the states. They created this beast and it is their job to tame it. The 10th amendment is there for a reason, it's time they got around to using it.
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It is Secession or Slavery. Choose one. There is no third choice.
ReplyDeleteA convention is exactly how we ended up with the constitution when delegates were gathered to only consider amendments to the Articles of Confederation. The founders called that convention knowing full well they intended to do away with that form of governance. We honor them today for what they did? Patrick Henry saw full well where the new consolidated federal government would lead us.
"And here I would make this inquiry of those worthy characters who composed a part of the late federal Convention. I am sure they were fully impressed with the necessity of forming a great consolidated government, instead of a confederation. That this is a consolidated government is demonstrably clear; and the danger of such a government is, to my mind, very striking. I have the highest veneration for those gentlemen; but, sir, give me leave to demand, What right had they to say, We, the people? My political curiosity, exclusive of my anxious solicitude for the public welfare, leads me to ask, Who authorized them to speak the language of, We, the people, instead of, We, the states? States are the characteristics and the soul of a confederation. If the states be not the agents of this compact, it must be one great, consolidated, national government, of the people of all the states."
http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/preambles14.html
The republic is long dead as is the constitution. Those who feel we can restore the constitution and the republic are as deluded as those who feel with just the right Republican candidate we can vote our way out of this. We as a nation are just too large, too out of scale for a proper form of republican governance to work and we are too far divided to ever be able to come together and even try to make it work. Our "representative" government only represents the special interests and the political elites don't give a damn about "we the people" except in how they can manipulate us to serve their needs and the wishes of their masters.
It is time again to say " all we ask is to be let alone". It is time to truly Free North Carolina.
Excellent and up it goes. Thanks.
DeleteIn a few short years interest will consume ALL federal tax income. Then the feds will not be able to extort or bribe states to follow its mandates as there is nothing in it for the states at that point. Nullify, nullify, nullify.
ReplyDeleteHurry up ! :)
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