A better idea would be to quit being afraid of "Offending" the peace nicks here. Personally I'm all for the complete destruction of ALL terrorist orgs and their country of support. Be it Iran/Saudi Arabia/Yemen etc. Once you actually fight a war to win it by making the host country see the results of them supporting terror perhaps they stop supporting.
I sure as hell am not about to sign something that says we go back to the way we did things before 9-11. Treating terrorists as criminals is exactly what got us 9-11.
Sorry Brock but you and I are way apart here. Allen West would be the best person to talk to about what we face. It's not about terrorists as much as it is the ideology behind it. THAT is the war we are in and until we fight that we will continue to be fighting B.S. wars.
We need a leader that recognizes that and takes it too them. Without apology without rebuilding, without remorse. Extermination of those who oppose our way of life or exploit it to kill our citizens.
I am NO fan of pislam (spelling intentional), but the war on terror is no different than any other war when it comes to civil rights. In WWI and WWII, there were limits on freedom of speech. In the civil war, Heabus Corpus was suspended.
The war on terror will see the complete transformation of this country into a National Socialist dictatorship.
War is the health of big government as Judge Andrew Napolitano said on his TV show.
ALLOWS the President to subject American citizens to the same treatment. This includes the power to detain people INDEFINITELY, without charges.
Mark my words it will be used against anyone he sees fit. ======
The House Votes Today 12-14-11 on Indefinite Detention of Americans Submitted by Republicae on Wed, 12/14/2011 - 10:09 in
Politics & Law
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Quote of the Day: "This is an asymmetric war. In asymmetric wars, you want to pit your greatest strength against the enemy's greatest weakness. Our great strengths are our ideals and our system of justice." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/12/indefinite-military...
Two weeks ago we warned you about indefinite detention provisions of the Senate's version National Defense Authorization Act.
We have BAD NEWS to report. In the final version of the bill coming from the House-Senate Conference Committee, essentially NOTHING HAS CHANGED except section numbers and a couple of words.
The House is voting on the bill TOMORROW, December 14.
Please CALL your Representative telling them to oppose the National Defense Authorization Act, especially sections 1021 and 1022. https://secure.downsizedc.org/etp/not-afraid/ Please write a letter as well. We have updated the hard-wired message to say:
I strongly oppose Sections 1021 and 1022 in the National Defense Authorization Act (HR 1540).
You may borrow from or copy the following personal comments...
These provisions REQUIRE military detention for aliens suspected of terrorism, and ALLOWS the President to subject American citizens to the same treatment. This includes the power to detain people INDEFINITELY, without charges.
This undermines the Posse Comitatus Act, which outlawed the deployment of the military for domestic policing. This actually makes us LESS secure because it diverts the military's mission from fighting wars to investigating and prosecuting suspected terrorists.
Even worse, this is a declaration of war on the American way of life.
* It violates the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment * And abandons protections against arbitrary executive power that are as old as the Magna Carta
How can ANY of my rights and freedoms be secure if the President can, by whim, call me a "terrorist" and order troops to kidnap me?
If it is true that terrorists hate us for our freedom, then Sections 1021 and 1022 will make it official: The terrorists win.
Be a patriot. Be an American. Stand up for the Constitution. Strip Sections 1021 and 1022 from HR 1540 or oppose the bill altogether.
END LETTER https://secure.downsizedc.org/etp/not-afraid/
Spread this message via email, blog, or social network -- whatever facilities you have. Tell your friends to join you in acting NOW. Rep. Justin Amash is organizing opposition, and he's making progress. But time is short. Your help is needed.
A better idea would be to quit being afraid of "Offending" the peace nicks here. Personally I'm all for the complete destruction of ALL terrorist orgs and their country of support. Be it Iran/Saudi Arabia/Yemen etc. Once you actually fight a war to win it by making the host country see the results of them supporting terror perhaps they stop supporting.
ReplyDeleteI sure as hell am not about to sign something that says we go back to the way we did things before 9-11. Treating terrorists as criminals is exactly what got us 9-11.
Sorry Brock but you and I are way apart here. Allen West would be the best person to talk to about what we face. It's not about terrorists as much as it is the ideology behind it. THAT is the war we are in and until we fight that we will continue to be fighting B.S. wars.
We need a leader that recognizes that and takes it too them. Without apology without rebuilding, without remorse. Extermination of those who oppose our way of life or exploit it to kill our citizens.
In times of war, the laws fall silent.
ReplyDeleteI am NO fan of pislam (spelling intentional), but the war on terror is no different than any other war when it comes to civil rights. In WWI and WWII, there were limits on freedom of speech. In the civil war, Heabus Corpus was suspended.
The war on terror will see the complete transformation of this country into a National Socialist dictatorship.
War is the health of big government as Judge Andrew Napolitano said on his TV show.
ALLOWS the President to subject American citizens to the same treatment. This includes the power to detain people INDEFINITELY, without charges.
ReplyDeleteMark my words it will be used against anyone he sees fit.
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The House Votes Today 12-14-11 on Indefinite Detention of Americans
Submitted by Republicae on Wed, 12/14/2011 - 10:09
in
Politics & Law
66 votes
Quote of the Day: "This is an asymmetric war. In asymmetric wars, you want to pit your greatest strength against the enemy's greatest weakness. Our great strengths are our ideals and our system of justice." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/12/indefinite-military...
Two weeks ago we warned you about indefinite detention provisions of the Senate's version National Defense Authorization Act.
We explain the bill...
* http://www.downsizedc.org/blog/urgent-indefinite-jailing-of-...
* http://www.downsizedc.org/blog/does-the-bill-really-do-what-...
We have BAD NEWS to report. In the final version of the bill coming from the House-Senate Conference Committee, essentially NOTHING HAS CHANGED except section numbers and a couple of words.
The House is voting on the bill TOMORROW, December 14.
Please CALL your Representative telling them to oppose the National Defense Authorization Act, especially sections 1021 and 1022. https://secure.downsizedc.org/etp/not-afraid/
Please write a letter as well. We have updated the hard-wired message to say:
I strongly oppose Sections 1021 and 1022 in the National Defense Authorization Act (HR 1540).
You may borrow from or copy the following personal comments...
These provisions REQUIRE military detention for aliens suspected of terrorism, and ALLOWS the President to subject American citizens to the same treatment. This includes the power to detain people INDEFINITELY, without charges.
This undermines the Posse Comitatus Act, which outlawed the deployment of the military for domestic policing. This actually makes us LESS secure because it diverts the military's mission from fighting wars to investigating and prosecuting suspected terrorists.
Even worse, this is a declaration of war on the American way of life.
* It violates the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment
* And abandons protections against arbitrary executive power that are as old as the Magna Carta
How can ANY of my rights and freedoms be secure if the President can, by whim, call me a "terrorist" and order troops to kidnap me?
If it is true that terrorists hate us for our freedom, then Sections 1021 and 1022 will make it official: The terrorists win.
Be a patriot. Be an American. Stand up for the Constitution. Strip Sections 1021 and 1022 from HR 1540 or oppose the bill altogether.
END LETTER
https://secure.downsizedc.org/etp/not-afraid/
Spread this message via email, blog, or social network -- whatever facilities you have. Tell your friends to join you in acting NOW. Rep. Justin Amash is organizing opposition, and he's making progress. But time is short. Your help is needed.
Thank you!
Jim Babka
President
DownsizeDC.org, Inc.
The Judge is a good man.
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