A couple weeks ago at the NC PATCON, I moderated a very abbreviated discussion of the Appalachian Redoubt. There was some really good input, however, we didn’t get the opportunity to finish the discussion points. So I’d like to open the floor up to everyone’s input.
From an intelligence standpoint, I like the Appalachian Redoubt not because it’s a particularly great option but because it’s the best option east of the Mississippi. I used to view Texas in a similar light, however, I think it’s now apparent that Texas stands a real chance of being turned blue. Frankly, as Texas goes, so goes America. At a strategic level, if Texas becomes a democrat state through immigration reform and the creation of 10-30MM new Americans, it’s difficult to see how we’ll ever have another pro-Liberty, limited government president, maybe within my lifetime. I think that’s the last nail in the Republic’s coffin as national gun control legislation would be soon to follow. (The national popular vote was within five million, and the Texas vote was within 1.2MM. Even just a few million new voters would make a significant impact.)
At any rate, I’m attracted to the Appalachians for the same reasons I’m drawn to the Mountain West, and it’s ultimately why I decided to make the Mountain West my home a few years ago.
So I’ve come up with the top five factors with intelligence requirements that need to be discussed and answered if you’re going to build the Appalachian Redoubt. I love the idea and I’ll support the mission as best I can. (And, really, these factors apply to any Redoubt or retreat location.)
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The one BIG problem that I see is; The historic hostility held by the people of Appalachia to ALL outsiders. I know that where I grew up in eastern Ky. a sudden influx of "outsiders" with guns "causin' trouble" would be met with implacable hostility. and very likely armed violence. Bringing "feds with guns" and open warfare would NOT win the support of the locals---Ray
ReplyDeleteWell, that's a big area with much of it unpopulated.
DeleteI don't know about the mountains where y'all live, but there are way more people in the hills than y'all seem to think. In my home county (Owsley Co. Ky.) It says D. Boone Nat. Forest on the map, but in reality it is a checkerboard of small farms / free holds with little bits of ".Gov." land around them. We have had the phenom. FOR YEARS of outsiders coming on to our farm to "cash" supply's for "prepping" (or grow pot). I cannot tell you the number of them we have run off or had arrested, and they all say the same thing: "The map says nobody lives here" . It has gotten so bad since 2008 that I know of elders having guns pointed at them (my own mother is one) by people who planed to squat on the "abandoned" farms. Trust me when I say that "outsiders" ARE NOT seen in a good light in my part of the proposed "Redoubt". In fact many people I know have adopted a "shoot first" attitude toward anyone from outside the county. I think that an armed group of "outsiders" would be known county wide within an hour, and seen as "preppers" or pot growers, and be given VERY short shift by the locals---Ray
DeleteAll we wish is to be left alone.
DeleteI live twenty miles north of Asheville nc and a m very familiar with wnc and east ten and the toe of va.we have a lot of people who have moved here if they act decent and leave people alone then we have no problem with them.i think this is an ideal place to come its easily defended not much diversity Madison county is 99% white we are also known as bloody Madison due to our resistence to tax collector one was tared and feathered tied to a log and sent down the rapids of the mitey French broad river.land to me is not cheap anymore but I am told its cheaper than up north.so I would say this area would make a great redoubt.your friend truckwilkins
ReplyDeleteThanks and I'd like to get down there and see you sometime.
DeleteBrock I think there is already an Appalachian Redoubt. A few years ago
DeleteI saw an ad on a Prepper site for a company designing high end bunkers
and retreats. On his page was a link for contractors desiring work to contact. I did. After exchanging several e-mails and at least one phone call the gentleman revealed to me that his company was building a string of
high end bunkers and fortified structures along the Appalachian chain from NY all the way down to Alabama. They were all built with absolute maximum OPSEC including background checks on all workers and strict rules of conduct. I was hopeful that I could put together a deal with them to provide skilled labor. He had talked to me about coming to their main offices to talk to them. They were a subsidiary of a high rated design build firm that builds things like big government office buildings, etc.
At some point in the conversation he misunderstood something I said and immediately freaked out on me. I realized what had happened and tried to explain that he had misunderstood but it was too late. He cut me off and politely ended the call. I was never able to reach him again by phone or e-mail. I had nearly forgotten all about him until one night I was watching the "Doomsday Preppers" show and they mentioned a name that rung a bell. After thinking about it for a while I realized it was the same fellow I had been talking too. It was an episode where they were showing some
fortified retreats for rich people.
I'm also aware of strong prepper activity in a couple of counties in the NC Mountains where I have friends. That's all I can say about that.
Thanks.
DeleteIt is a big area. But looking at it tells anyone that beyond basic survival (EMP?) that it just won't be effective. Redoubt? The next conflict cannot be fought like the last. There can be no space between the people and their oppressors. No 'defensive' strategy. No borders. No respite. The inhabitants, I am quite sure, will take care of themselves. They are, afterall, the "over the mountain people". The same ones who showed up on Kings Mountain and slew Ferguson. The very man who had Washington, himself, in his sights a year earlier. As you know, war is strange. The next one will be no different. That "redoubt " will be a nice place to hunker down.
ReplyDeletethe guerilla must be like the fish in the water. if the prepper don't fit then he needs to adapt and adjust to the locals.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely.
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