Sunday, October 30, 2016

Burns Chronicles No 37 Intent v. Effect


There has been no substantial interview regarding the deliberations that resulted in 12 Not Guilty Verdicts, and One Verdict where the jury could not get consensus.  However, we do have a bit of information that is probably the most critical single piece with regard to understanding just what happened that led to those verdicts.

Juror #4, the juror that brought Judge Brown the indication of bias by Juror #11, has stated that the government failed to show that the occupiers had the intention to impede the government employees.

That the failure of the employees to report to the Refuge may have been an effect of the occupation.

Since the Jury Instructions required the government to prove “intent”, the jury had to find them Not Guilty, at least with regard to Counts One and Two.  In a written statement, Juror #4 said, “All 12 agreed that impeding existed, even if as an effect of the occupation.”  The difference between “effect” and “intent”, then, becomes the foundation for this article.

However, first, a bit of an explanation.  I seldom bring politics into any of my articles, however, to put this situation in a proper context, I think it is necessary to do so, now.  Whether what I am going to bring to your attention had anything to do with their verdict, or not, is yet to be known.  If it was not considered, then the irony of the comparison still should be of interest to all.

Addressing those matters that were brought to our attention, this past Friday, regarding Hillary Clinton’s email server and the possibility that criminal pedophiliac material may have gone through that server.  That material could possibly be emails from former Representative Anthony Weiner (New York (D)), through his wife, Muslimah Huma Abedin*, through Hillary’s rather suspicious email server, to an underage girl.

* Huma AbedinFormer deputy chief of staff to U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and still a prominent figure in Hillary’s campaign for President.

UPDATE from Gary

There were seven defendants in the just concluded trial in Portland.  They are Ammon Bundy, Ryan Bundy, Shawna Cox, David Lee Fry, Jeff Wayne Banta, Kenneth Medenbach, and Neil Wampler.

Of those, only two, Ammon and Ryan Bundy, were also charged in Nevada.  They have been detained by the US Marshals for transfer to Nevada.

Marcus Mumford raised the question of them being detained after the not guilty verdict.  That led to him being thrown down on the courtroom floor, tazed, and charged with resisting arrest and disorderly conduct.  He has a hearing date set to answer to those charges, though he was released within a couple of hours.

We have found no outstanding arrest warrant, or any other paperwork that allow them being detained, though we have not gone through the many hundreds of documents on file in both the Oregon and Nevada cases.

In the meantime, they will probably be transferred to Nevada within a few days.  The government likes to keep secret those transfer dates, since there are so many bad characters out here that might raid the transport and free them -- so that they can walk into court and defend against the charges without having to wear handcuffs or prison clothes.

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