Saturday, October 20, 2018

Caveat, America, Emptor

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Probably no man in America in 1800 knew more about, or cared more passionately for, republicanism than Thomas Jefferson. It was the common belief that a true republic had to be of a fairly limited size, on the model of the Greek republics, in which Athens, at perhaps 200,000 was the largest, or the Italian republics of the middle ages, which generally numbered no more than 70,000 or 80,000 people. The point was that since these operated not by face-to-face democracy but by representation, the deliberative body to which citizens sent their delegates had to be limited—in the hundreds, but certainly no bigger than the Athenian assembly that was 500 at its largest. But Jefferson, then President of a nominal republic of 5 million people, still believed that the American system was a republic: first, because each state was sovereign and could nullify Federal laws that it thought unconstitutional, second because the popular legislative body (the House) was limited to one representative for every 30,000 people, so that even the redistricting after the 1800 census would limit the number to about 178 representatives, a workable body.Probably no man in America in 1800 knew more about, or cared more passionately for, republicanism than Thomas Jefferson.

It was the common belief that a true republic had to be of a fairly limited size, on the model of the Greek republics, in which Athens, at perhaps 200,000 was the largest, or the Italian republics of the middle ages, which generally numbered no more than 70,000 or 80,000 people. The point was that since these operated not by face-to-face democracy but by representation, the deliberative body to which citizens sent their delegates had to be limited—in the hundreds, but certainly no bigger than the Athenian assembly that was 500 at its largest. But Jefferson, then President of a nominal republic of 5 million people, still believed that the American system was a republic: first, because each state was sovereign and could nullify Federal laws that it thought unconstitutional, second because the popular legislative body (the House) was limited to one representative for every 30,000 people, so that even the redistricting after the 1800 census would limit the number to about 178 representatives, a workable body.

2 comments:

  1. Americanism under attack as we breath. According to the Marxist
    station, NBC, six Oath Keepers were arrested for being out after
    curfew and armed. The Marxist reporter called them anti-goverment;
    I call them pro America; they do the job the government will not
    do like defend America. The six Oath Keepers are at Mexico Beach
    hunting the looters where there is not enough police to enforce
    the law.
    The Militia has always been the first line of defense of America.
    Brock, are you seeing a yellowed message saying to sign-in with
    google on the comment section? I don't have a google acct and
    would not sign-in with it if I did.
    Oh yea, if you should recall my not being able to pull-up the
    Oath Keeper website on Fire Fox; well when I went to Safari,
    the website was not blocked.

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    1. The OK were supposed to have been invited there.

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      Brock, are you seeing a yellowed message saying to sign-in with google on the comment section?

      Yes, when I try Anon but it just says you won't be able to
      edit if you don't.

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      not being able to pull-up the Oath Keeper website on Fire Fox; well when I went to Safari,the website was not blocked.

      Thanks.

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