Monday, April 16, 2018

False flag proven

Via Iver

 Lavrov: Swiss lab says ‘BZ toxin’ used in Salisbury, not produced in Russia, was in US & UK service


The double poisoning in the UK was not the Russians nor was the toxin utilized the one originally claimed by the British foreign office, according to a top Swiss lab:

The substance used on Sergei Skripal was an agent called BZ, according to Swiss state Spiez lab, the Russian foreign minister said. The toxin was never produced in Russia, but was in service in the US, UK, and other NATO states.

Sergei Skripal, a former Russian double agent, and his daughter Yulia were poisoned with an incapacitating toxin known as 3-Quinuclidinyl benzilate or BZ, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said, citing the results of the examination conducted by a Swiss chemical lab that worked with the samples that London handed over to the Organisation for the Prohibition of the Chemical Weapons (OPCW).

The Swiss center sent the results to the OPCW. However, the UN chemical watchdog limited itself only to confirming the formula of the substance used to poison the Skripals in its final report without mentioning anything about the other facts presented in the Swiss document, the Russian foreign minister added. He went on to say that Moscow would ask the OPCW about its decision to not include any other information provided by the Swiss in its report.

The Swiss center mentioned by Lavrov is the Spiez Laboratory controlled by the Swiss Federal Office for Civil Protection and ultimately by the country’s defense minister. The lab is also an internationally recognized center of excellence in the field of the nuclear, biological, and chemical protection and is one of the five centers permanently authorized by the OPCW.

The Russian foreign minister said that London refused to answer dozens of “very specific” questions asked by Moscow about the Salisbury case, as well as to provide any substantial evidence that could shed light on the incident. Instead, the UK accused Russia of failing to answer its own questions, he said, adding that, in fact, London did not ask any questions but wanted Moscow to admit that it was responsible for the delivery of the chemical agent to the UK.
Now, why would the British government be lying about this and why would it want to provoke a confrontation with Russia on a false basis in the first place?

14 comments:

  1. I wouldn't too quick to pass judgement. If one follows the link one finds the article was published in the "Russian Times". It said "The substance used on Sergei Skripal was an agent called BZ, according to Swiss state Spiez lab, the Russian foreign minister said. The toxin was never produced in Russia, but was in service in the US, UK, and other NATO states." So we have an article published in Russia that quotes a Russian minister. Seriously sounds like more Russian disinformation to me.

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    1. I noticed that but posted because of Vox.

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  2. Yes, still too early, and too many possible actors.
    Russia would NEVER mix up a batch of their own BZ, or bribe someone to give them some. Nor would an organized crime group.
    Hmmm - NATO allies (Turkey) and Muslims in England?
    Just to mention a few possibilities.

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  3. Trust is a precious commodity and Brits have been caught supporting Obama administration spying on Americans while American intelligence has be politicized along with the DOJ and FBI collusion and Russian intelligence can't be trusted on anything. When neither family, friend, nor enemy can be trusted we find ourselves relying on intuition which is not a "best" model and why a large number of "family" needs to go to prison and friend and enemy left hanging. I do not think the deep state knows the damage they have inflicted nor the price they must pay for that damage.

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    1. I do not think the deep state knows the damage they have inflicted nor the price they must pay for that damage.

      I sure hope they find out ASAP.

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  4. Yeah intelligence can be trusted? We have no idea what is being produced or even where. I'm supposed to believe the Russians?

    Let me ask you this, do you trust the DOJ? But you trust the Russians? Can I interest you in beachfront property in Utah?

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    1. Who said I trusted the Russians? I trust no one these days.

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  5. Since the war criminals couldn't find a chemical weapon
    plant, they decided to bomb a Cancer Research Facility.
    If it ain't there, just make it up:
    https://thefreethoughtproject.com/us-claims-it-bombed-syrian-chemical-facility-while-reportedly-bombing-cancer-research-center/?utm_source=getresponse&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=rssfeednewsletter&utm_content=The+Free+Thought+Project+Newsletter
    Pathetic.

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    1. Thanks.https://freenorthcarolina.blogspot.com/2018/04/scientist-debunks-us-claimsreleases.html

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    2. Really? You think we have nothing better to do than piss away half a billion dollars to destroy stuff and kill people we don't know? If it's all just dog and pony show, there is no need to bomb Syria at all. Just like the argument, "assad had no reason at all to use chemical weapons", the USA, France, and the UK had no reason at all to want to bomb cancer research building. But when your own public officials lie to you so often about everything, it's easy to distrust everything they say. Even without grand global conspiracies, there is plenty of self-serving corruption at high levels, all the time.

      At least we did not get the most corrupt woman in America elected and all her friends in office for another 4 years.

      --generic

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    3. At least we did not get the most corrupt woman in America elected and

      Indeed.

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  6. http://www.thenorthstar.info/2016/10/09/exposing-the-libertarian-agenda-of-the-free-thought-project/

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