38 year old James Boyd had been camping in a spot that the state deemed
"illegal." Trigger happy officers were dispatched to the scene and Boyd
was murdered by them.
Boyd was being cordial and surrendering and he started walking down the mountain. At this point the aggressive and violent escalation by police led to a flash bang grenade and then shots fired.
Apparently cops wearing cameras does not deter them from murdering people.
Boyd was being cordial and surrendering and he started walking down the mountain. At this point the aggressive and violent escalation by police led to a flash bang grenade and then shots fired.
Apparently cops wearing cameras does not deter them from murdering people.
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Homeless Man Shot Dead By Albuquerque PD
There seems to be closer to 15-20 feet of horizontal separation, and perhaps 4-5 feet of vertical separation on rough, boulder-strewn terrain. Again, as far as Boyd’s movement shows, he was intent on increasing that separation, and is turning away from the officers when shots are fired.
Lets be very clear here: if there was a shorter separation gap, it is because officers were moving aggressively to close the distance to Boyd.
From the perspective of the helmet camera of Officer Perez, I don’t see where he was justified in taking the three shots that he did on a man turning away from them.
Separately, Perez seems to be in a bad position to be taking any shots at all. The two officers on the hillside ahead of him had rapidly shifted into position as the advanced up the hill, and they stepped in front of Perez. This could have easily resulted in a “blue on blue” shooting, and Perez should have lowered his rifle.
An even more concerning factor is that the other APD officer who fired on Boyd, Keith Sandy, isn’t even supposed to have a gun or a badge, as he was fired from the New Mexico State Police for fraud.
More @ Bearing Arms
There's just got to be more to this story. I can't imagine even the most gung-ho cop simply shooting a guy who was doing nothing more than surrendering.
ReplyDeleteApparently, there's more to this story than at first meets the eye.
ReplyDeleteHave you seen this news report?
http://krqe.com/2014/03/21/apd-officer-involved-shooting-was-justified/
Zoomie posted it below.
DeleteThe KRQE story misses the story, homeless man killed because he was breaking law against camping where he was camping.
Deletehomeless man killed because he was breaking law against camping where he was camping.
DeleteAnd....? Another-words justified because he was breaking the law?
wow.
ReplyDeleteOk, after some research, it appears Mr. Boyd was mentally ill and had a history, known to the police, of violence against officers. Further, the standoff had lasted three hours at the point the video starts.
ReplyDeleteNow, having said all that, the police have several ways to enforce Boyd's compliance without using lethal force. They clearly had a dog and beanbags, and I'd bet some one of those six or seven had a taser.
At the point Boyd is beginning to come down to them, appearing to agree to accompany the officers back to town, one officer says, "Do it," and the flash grenade goes off immediately. At the same time, the dog is released and charges Boyd. Confused, Mr. Boyd must immediately try to deal with the snarling dog immediately in front of him, and I believe that is why he had knives in his hands. Further, the dog handler charges forward to follow the dog, going right toward Mr. Boyd, who I doubt could distinguish him from any other officer. The dog handler, by the way, should be fired from his job. Not only did he dash forward in front of officers clearly willing and able to shoot in his direction, he contributed to Mr. Boyd's confusion by running right at him. He's supremely lucky the trigger happy officers didn't kill him too by accident!
Poor Mr. Boyd, believing he was going to come down the mountain with the police, is in quick succession startled by a stun grenade going off right in front of him, charged by a snarling dog and it's handler, and then, when his ears were likely ringing loudly from the grenade, hears the policemen yelling at him. Can it be any surprise that he foolishly turns to retreat from all this?
The final idiocy is the sudden shooting, which I understand was six shots, with the man with the camera shooting nearly directly over the dog handler and another officer. Hugely dangerous and shockingly poor gun handling, to say the least, but he did hit Mr. Boyd!
To add to this tragic farce, the lead officer then demands that the prone man be shot with bean bags, even as Mr. Boyd is pleading with them not to hurt him and exclaiming that he can't move. No doubt he couldn't with several gunshot wounds in him! By the time all six or seven policemen get up to him he is clearly expiring, and no longer even the minimal threat he had been originally.
In my opinion, the police had finally worn him out, and as it was nightfall and they had been at him for three hours, and Boyd had decided to give up and come in. Why it was at this moment these geniuses decided to throw the grenade and release the dog is something that will have to come out in court, for they will certainly be tried for this shooting. I would hazard that they clearly had decided that when he started to come in, they would attack, and the fact that they were ready to shoot at the slightest reason means to me that they wanted to kill him if they could. Surely, no one is going to "get on the ground" when there is a snarling dog snapping at their face, which the police must have known.
Any competent attorney could convict these police of at least manslaughter, if not first degree murder. They clearly, clearly manipulated the situation to ensure that Mr. Boyd would give them some reason to shoot, and that's the way it in fact turned out. How will the police explain why they didn't taser him, or beanbag him, or even sic the dog on him, or even some combination of the three, before opening fire with live ammo? This is a terrible outcome which didn't just unnecessarily cost Mr. Boyd his life, but it has tarred the police themselves as cold blooded murderers. The comments to the news articles on this are almost uniformly bitter and caustic.
Excellent analysis. Thanks.
DeleteHoly Mother of Jesus - is New Mexico the test ground for all things Police State? This is murder of the worst kind.
ReplyDeleteI see no justification.
DeleteNone of this would have happened if the piggies had refused to hassle a poor dumb bastard who wasn't bothering anyone...
ReplyDeletehttp://krqe.com/2014/03/21/apd-officer-involved-shooting-was-justified/
Why...of COURSE it was justified.
"Chief Eden called the shooting justified at the news conference, saying officers used non-lethal force first and that there was a direct threat made at an unarmed K9 officer."
Unarmed? I guess Fido had no teeth.
K9 officer? I am SO sick and effing tired of an effing police dog referred to as an officer...as if it is human. WTF? Did Fluffy raise its right paw and declare an oath to support and defend the Constitution?
My hate for cops grows exponentially every day. Eff 'em all.
Thanks a lot, Brock.
;)
Thanks for the link and check out the top comment. Demosthenes Smith
DeleteMust be a cop.
"None of this would have happened if the piggies had refused to hassle a poor dumb bastard who wasn't bothering anyone..."
DeleteEnd of story; thank you. That is a choice, isn't it? If I hear another word about imposed morality, from any "side," I may be nauseous. Either this shit gets stopped or it doesn't, and it doesn't matter WHO'S doing it.
Time to get the names of the fascist pigs that gunned him down, and give them a little Patriot justice...JMHO
ReplyDeleteCold War Gunner
Waiting for the straw to break the camel's back, because it surely will come.
DeleteWell, they got him on the ground, alright.
ReplyDeletethey got him on the ground, alright.
DeletePathetic.
I am still shocked and a bit shaky at what I have just witnessed in this video. This should leave no doubt that these JBT's do not require justification to wantonly murder any civilian who stands up for their fundamental rights. I saw no weapon being drawn down on any of these thug's. As a matter of fact, Boyd's arms and hands were visible without a weapon in either. What reason do these murderers have to kill someone, anyone who is not presenting a threatening posture? This is what every citizen should witness and understand completely that this can and shall happen to each and every one of us if this is allowed to go unpunished.
ReplyDeleteOne commenter mentioned twice that he may have also been a threat to himself since he had knives. Brilliant! Justification to kill you so you won't harm yourself?
DeleteAs I see it, it was murder. Period. And they will get away with it. The union and the admin will protect them. It will be the usual justification: They feared for their safety and he resisted arrest. But let Joe Pack do the exact same thing, he WILL BE charged with murder. Remember too, the police can lie to you. You are the enemy and assumed to be guilty till they prove (by any means necessary) you to be guilty.
ReplyDeletethey will get away with it.
DeleteYes and they do virtually all of the time and why this is not going to have a pleasant ending.
"K9 Officer" refers to the dog's handler, not the dog. And why was he out there without his issued gunbelt?
ReplyDeleteOh, and Brock...magically, Disqus is having problems loading the comments.
Disqus is having problems loading the comments.
DeleteThanks, nothing to see here, just move right along........
In a sane world you'd be right but I am pretty sure the Chief psychopath was referring to the dog.
DeleteIn a sane world
DeleteWe have become MAD Magazine.
You telling me the cop k9 "handler" was unarmed?
ReplyDeleteBullshit.
They will get away with it, but there will be a cost to them nonetheless. The people who view this shit are getting more fed up every day, losing their belief in the government religion. Eventually the damn will break and assholes like this will not survive what results.
ReplyDeleteAgreed, no way out.
Deletea rose by any other name... murder is murder
ReplyDeleteyet another reason why there must needs be more of this:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/03/24/peacemaker-be-with-ny-church-raffles-ar-15-plans-next-giveaway-tonight/
I'm thankful to see that not all of my brethren wear lace panties
I'm thankful to see that not all of my brethren wear lace panties
DeleteYes and good to see it up north as these usually occur in the South or out west, though upstate is conservative.
Bearing Arms take added above.
DeleteI remember the words of the Movie "Billy Jack".
ReplyDelete"When policemen break the law, then there is no law...just a fight for survival."
Just saw this article on WRSA. This pisses me the Ef off. I am a Peace Officer too. Retired Marine Officer with two wars behind me but I am not at war with The People who're are my masters and I am their servant and a Guardian of the Constitution. I and my Sheriff are the ONLY Constitutionally authorized Peace Officers. NOT Chiefs, not Police Officers. They hold no elected executive power duly granted them by the People to be chosen as the Sheriff is to be the choice of the People as the executor of the law. They work for Corporations called cities or States{State Police} and are appointed. The fuckers murdered that guy straight away. The POLICE STATE is here folks. Wake the fuck up. NO ONE trusts the cops anymore to be their shields. "hey need a safe place get behind me. I'll protect you and your Rights". If any peace officer calls themselves a Law Enforcement Officer. You're nothing but a fucking revenuer for the state. The Constitution call us Peace Officers for a reason. You can't shoot a kid for NOT dropping an airsoft rifle or anyone for not dropping a firearm. You can only do it if they begin to lift or point it in a threatening fashion. Or look at Fullerton Police. Those fucking NAZI thugs beat that poor homeless man to death. Watch the video and listen to him beg. Fuckers. I am so ashamed that you even wear a badge. Only the Sheriff is the true executor of the Law because he is there at the pleasure of the voters. I have nearly 30 yrs in this biz and I can see the writing on the wall. In the near future if you're wearing a badge you're gonna be a target. Because just like one of the guys who posted here earlier said 'cops' can't be trusted. In the most sense when the People feel this way and the rule of law and Due Process is thrown out but the gov't, then The People themselves see no reason to follow laws. And the one poster was also right...so the fuck what if he was 'camping' where the PTB said they didn't want him too. Wait here in the near future when this fiat currency and this economy shit itself. Wanna some poor, homeless campers then. I just pray I am retired shortly so I am not driving home and some SOB who knows me not, because I am the Constitutionalist, Oath upholding deputy in my department, but because he doesn't know that....I get a .300 win mag come crashing through the side of my head. Brothers, those of you who swore your Oaths and know what they mean. Resist! Do not commit unlawful, illegitimate and criminal act upon the People you swore to protect their Rights. If your actions are outside the law, the Supreme Law of the Land, the Constitution (Art 6, Sec 2 and 3} Then you're acting criminally against The People and they have every right to resist you. CT State badges.....don't do it. Don't follow the illegitimate orders to go get something that is a Constitutionally protected item. If we the badges refuse and stay our oaths...then tyranny cannot be enforced upon free Citizens. The Bill of Rights is part of the Constitution. That makes those Amendments Law as well. So refuse and defy unlawful orders. Semper Fidelis, Paratus et Vigilio.
ReplyDeleteThank you wholeheartedly, Sir and I'll make your excellent comment a separate post.
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