Tuesday, November 20, 2012

You’re Not Free If You Can’t Secede From an Oppressive Government

Via midnightrider


Is all the recent talk of secession mere sour grapes over the election or perhaps something deeper? Currently there are active petitions in support of secession for all 50 states, with Texas taking the lead in number of signatures. Texas has well over the number of signatures needed to generate a response from the administration, and while I wouldn’t hold my breath on Texas actually seceding, I believe these petitions raise a lot of worthwhile questions about the nature of our union.

Is it treasonous to want to secede from the United States? Many think the question of secession was settled by our Civil War. On the contrary, the principles of self-government and voluntary association are at the core of our founding. Clearly, Thomas Jefferson believed secession was proper, albeit as a last resort. Writing to William Giles in 1825 he concluded that states “should separate from our companions only when the sole alternatives left are the dissolution of our union with them, or submission to a government without limitation of powers.”

Keep in mind that the first and third paragraph of the Declaration of Independence expressly contemplate the dissolution of a political union when the underlying government becomes tyrannical. Do we have a government without limitation of powers yet? The federal government kept the union together through violence and force in the Civil War, but did might really make right?

Secession is a deeply American principle. This country was born through secession. Some thought it was treasonous to secede from England, but those “traitors” became our country’s greatest patriots. There is nothing treasonous or unpatriotic about wanting a federal government that is more responsive to the people it represents. That is what our revolutionary war was all about and today, our own federal government is vastly overstepping its constitutional bounds with no signs of reform. In fact, the recent election only further entrenched the status quo.

If the possibility of secession is completely off the table there is nothing to stop the federal government from continuing to encroach on our liberties, and no recourse for those who are sick and tired of it. Consider the ballot measures that passed in Colorado and Washington state regarding marijuana laws. The people in those states have clearly indicated that they are ready to try something different where drug policy is concerned, yet they will still face a tremendous threat from the federal government. In California the feds have been arresting peaceful medical marijuana users and raiding dispensaries that state and local governments have sanctioned. This shouldn’t happen in a free country!

It remains to be seen what will happen in states that are refusing to comply with deeply unpopular mandates of Obamacare by not setting up healthcare exchanges. It appears the federal government will not respect those decisions either.

In free country governments derive their powers from the consent of the governed. When the people have very clearly withdrawn their consent for a law, the discussion should be over. If the feds refuse to accept that and continue to run roughshod over the people, at what point do we acknowledge that that is not freedom anymore? At what point should a people dissolve the political bands which have connected them with an increasingly tyrannical and oppressive federal government? And if people or states are not free to leave the United States as a last resort, can they really think of themselves as free? If a people cannot secede from an oppressive government they cannot truly be considered free.


  1. Brock speaks volumes of truth here! Let me humbly add to his thoughtful commentary:

    A Statement from a Concerned American Concerning the Ongoing "Secession Movement"

    I am an American who grew up loving his country.
    I believed from a political standpoint, that defending this country against all comers was most important.
    I am a patriot, and have served my country in the US Navy, as a submariner.

    And I signed the petition to PEACEFULLY secede from the corrupt kleptocracy the so-called government has become.

    We have already tried the incorporation scheme, obviating the Republic. The corporation's performance failures are painfully evident, in that overall, it has become a tyranny, that oppresses rather than protects We The People of this once-great nation and spreads its errors and terror all around the world, to order, of the dark cabal which owns it.

    The corporation has failed. It must be removed and the rightful, and lawful government of the Republic per the Constitution be re-enstated. We are NOT wishing to secede from that original form, rather, we want a divorce from the usurper that has infiltrated and taken over. And that usurper, by the "law" they created, only has jurisdiction in Washington DC, but has unlawfully extended itself into our lives and turned them upside down. We are NOT seceding from each other, in the several states, we are seceding from the evil criminal organization that has shown itself in Washington DC and without right or law, has assumed tyrannical dominance over the several states.

    From the very beginning, the nation state republics formed a "perpetual union", meaning that union would stand, but the rights of sovereignty were retained, as agreed by all the states joining. What right does then a criminal corporation that seeks to suck out our substance have to rule over us in this tyranny far worse than any Crown has heaped upon us at any point in our history?

    That is what the secession movement is about. It is not Anti Obama based on his ethnicity or religious background. This is true because the patriots who are expressing their dissatisfaction with the tyrannical corporation do not care about ethnicity. Obama could be purple for all we care, because we would love him dearly if he fulfilled his oath, and conducted his administration in keeping with all articles of the Constitution. Do you understand this distinction?

    Thus, it is not anti Obama specifically; it is anti corporate beast, and Obama so happens to be employed by the beast. If it was anyone else, doing the same things, our outrage wouldn't be any the less piqued. This is an important part for Obama supporters to understand. Their support and allegiance has been misplaced, because for the love of an impossibly immature idea, they over-look a host of faults and failings because denial of the failings is so much easier than confronting them so they can be corrected.

    There was patriotic outrage (not the vicious false attacks in the mainstream media) at the failings of the Bush administrations, both Presidents Bush, which was conveniently swept away and ignored, but make no mistake, both have been criminal, and their actions set the stage for Obama to come in and finish the job. These are patriotic presidents? I think not!

    But as I said above, this is the nature of the beast. It is what we can expect it to do so long as we continue allowing it to exist. We can do better, and for the sake of our children, we have to do better. This has been an explanation of what the secession movement is about. I don't care which side of the divide you place yourself with respect to this movement, but hopefully, this has helped you to see either side of this issue and realize it is far more complex than and 2D definition people want to label this with.

    1. Excellent and I'll make a separate post of this. Thanks.