Was the Waco Shoot-out a gunfight between rival gangs or an ambush laid by law enforcement? Police are monopolizing the testimony but the evidence suggests a barroom brawl became a pretext to kill or arrest essentially grassroots organizers, now charged with “organized crime”. Investigators can litter the crime scene with brass-knuckles and knives but the shell casings are going to be police issue.
Motorcycle headlights were on, indicating club members were trying to leave. Police claim that the brawlers redirected their fire toward officers, but did that happen while the bikers were trying to ride off? Because that task requires both hands. This gangland shoot-out has all the subtlety of the St Valentine’s Massacre.
More @ Not My Tribe
Anybody want to guess how long it takes for a bunch of feds to show up at a PATCON and do this? If they will do it to them they will do it to us.-----Ray
ReplyDeleteA helicopter flew over the last time, but I believe it was a news one. October will be our 8th and the only thing I might worry about is that something/someone gets planted, because everything is kosher at these family type events. I was contacted a few PATCONS ago asking permission for a producer to make a documentary, but I told them that my events at my family place Dixieland were only for family and friends and I wouldn't want them to be bothered. Never even replied which I thought strange. Don't burn your bridges as my mother was fond of saying.
DeleteI don't know what happened there. There is too much room for speculation and not enough evidence. It seems that such a situation should have been captured on video from at least 4 angles.
ReplyDeleteWhat is of pressing consern is that there must be an accounting for each police round fired and why each target was struck. Not even the police can simply fire into a crowd. Standing next to a criminal is not a crime. Indoubtedly, there will have been people in that crowd who were not committing crimes and who wanted no part of a brawl.
If the trials turn into witness testimony, the bikers have 200 witnesses who didn't do nothing and didn't see nothing. The police have the total burden of proof to identify that each person arrested was engaged in criminal acts.
What is of pressing consern is that there must be an accounting for each police round fired and why each target was struck. Not even the police can simply fire into a crowd. Standing next to a criminal is not a crime. Indoubtedly, there will have been people in that crowd who were not committing crimes and who wanted no part of a brawl.
DeleteAmen and the bikers were only fighting each other and should have been left alone by the trigger happy cops. I have tried to keep an even keel as far as the actions of the police in the pass, but this takes the cake.
The standard 'officers were forced to fire', 'many lives were saved by fast action', 'we had no choice' propaganda is exactly that. There is no way in hell they would EVER admit to anything that even hinted at a stupid or malevolent choice. We can hope for
ReplyDeletevideo to surface that may answer some questions but I doubt that any forensic or ballistic evidence that shines an ugly light on LEO conduct will ever see the light of day....at least not for a long long time.....till something else happens to keep people distracted.
'officers were forced to fire', 'many lives were saved by fast action', 'we had no choice
DeletePure BS.
I am waiting for them to give their usual reply of "they were resisting arrest" and "we feared for our safety". After all the ONLY thing that matters is an LEO coming home "safe" at the end of his/her/its shift regardless of how many others have to die in the process. Murders.
ReplyDeleteThey said that one pointed his handgun at them and even if so, why did they spray the crowd? No possible defense.
DeleteWas hoping to get some incite from the bikers. Probably leery of saying anything
ReplyDeletesince fear of retaliation. People are wondering where the video footage is. Seems
the cops confiscated all the cell phones even from those in the hospital. Some
additional info:
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/05/20/breaking-cctv-video-of-twin-peakswaco-shooting-shared-with-ap-reporters-gunfire-began-outside-bikers-running-for-cover-police-entered-restaurant-with-assault-rifles/
Thanks and I'll put it up. Here is a biker who asked me to put it up Anonymously and we don't have to wonder why.
DeleteBrock, thank you for putting something that's close to the truth about Waco, I'm a Cossack.................., the media is portraying us as a gang which is so far from the truth, it makes me sick, Bandidos are the scum of earth, now here any one that rides is being pulled over and searched for weapons, this is just the start, the Hells Angels are around locally without cuts on, that’s what the vests are called, were vets or retired police dr's lawyers, feds and so on, I just wanted to say thanks for the positive story ,ps. the Hells Angels hate the Banditos and are on way to points unknown to probably destroy them, just wait till this weekend, I'm hearing some bad stuff, just want to say, I wasn't there or knew nothing till I started getting multiple calls telling me this, the Cossacks are family men and don’t pay extortionists ,which is what a COC meeting is, to collect money........... I am your friend, and I read you loyally sir with much respect.......so ask me anything that’s positive and I will, be OK with this, as long as it's with anonymity, as I don't want to be targeted any more than I already am being followed every day by suspicious vehicles, I know when I'm being tailed.
Thanks. Sounds more like the truth. First the Militia thru the FBI bombing of
ReplyDeletethe OKC building and now the biker clubs; anyone who can protect America.
Anyone who has a sense of justice. The Bandidos don't fit the mold I envision.
Thank you, again.
Certainly and I just post what I think may be correct, but certainly can't vouch for most of it.
Delete